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COMMENT S\u2019ADRESSER \u00c0 UN PRESTATAIRE DE RELEV\u00c9 LASER POUR OBTENIR UN NUAGE DE POINTS OPTIMISER POUR LA MOD\u00c9LISATION SOUS REVIT ?<\/em><\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n

PETIT RAPPEL POUR COMMENCER : C\u2019EST QUOI UN NUAGE DE POINTS ?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

A point cloud (in geometry) is a 3D digital representation. It is a set of points, each located in a system of x, y, z coordinates.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A point cloud is created by a technician equipped with a laser scanning station. This one will take the measurements of thousands of points in space and assemble them into a coherent object<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\ud83d\udc49Attention \u00e0 ne pas confondre avec un \u00ab mesh \u00bb qui est 3D fait d\u2019une maille de triangle. Dans un nuage de points, les points sont isol\u00e9s !<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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UN MESH<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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UN NUAGE DE POINT<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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UN NUAGE DE POINTS : POUR FAIRE QUOI ?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Within the framework of a renovation or a rehabilitation, a laser scan survey will make it possible to obtain a 3D representation of the existing with an unequalled precision compared to a traditional survey (manual).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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NUAGE DE POINT<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

DU NUAGE DE POINTS \u00c0 LA MAQUETTE BIM<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Pour \u00eatre exploitable dans un projet de construction BIM un nuage de point en l\u2019\u00e9tat n\u2019est pas suffisant car il ne contient que de la g\u00e9om\u00e9trie et aucune intelligence (y-a-t\u2019il des murs, des portes ?). Le nuage de points doit donc \u00eatre trait\u00e9 en maquette BIM. C\u2019est-\u00e0-dire (re)mod\u00e9lis\u00e9 sur un outil BIM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Once recaptured by a BIM modeler in a BIM model, we can extract information relevant to the project: volume of concrete to be demolished, etc<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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MAQUETTE BIM<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

FACILITER LE TRAVAIL DE RESSAISI AVEC UN NUAGE DE POINTS APPROPRI\u00c9<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Pour r\u00e9aliser cette ressaisi sur un logiciel BIM (comme Revit par exemple) il faut disposer d\u2019un nuage de points trait\u00e9 \u00e0 cette fin. Par exemple, si le nuage est trop lourd (plusieurs centaines de Go), trop \u00e9tendu ou mal g\u00e9olocalis\u00e9 : la mod\u00e9lisation va \u00eatre fastidieuse, les outils ralentissent, voire plantent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Il faut donc \u00eatre \u00e0 m\u00eame d\u2019exprimer correctement ses exigences au prestataire de scan laser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

ORDER A POINT CLOUD FROM A SERVICE PROVIDER<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

LES TERMES \u00c0 CONNAITRE POUR BIEN COMMUNIQUER AVEC VOTRE PRESTATAIRE !<\/mark><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

FORMAT<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Si vous travaillez sous REVIT il vous faudra exiger un format *.rcp<\/strong> (qui est un format ReCap, si vous disposez de la suite AEC alors vous disposez de licence pour ReCap Pro et vous pourrez ouvrir directement ce format dans son logiciel pour visualiser le nuage de points)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NUAGE D\u00c9CIM\u00c9<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

D\u00e9cimer un nuage de points c\u2019est enlever les points redondants, supprimer les doublons.<\/strong> En effet, lors du relev\u00e9 certains points vont se superposer, particuli\u00e8rement dans les zones de recouvrement quand la station est d\u00e9plac\u00e9e d\u2019un point \u00e0 l\u2019autre de la pi\u00e8ce. D\u00e9cimer ces points en double permet d\u2019all\u00e9ger le fichier (jusqu\u2019\u00e0 30% du poids !) sans perdre en pr\u00e9cision. C\u2019est \u00e0 votre prestataire de r\u00e9aliser cette op\u00e9ration qui n\u00e9cessite un logiciel de traitement de nuage de point et des machines tr\u00e8s puissantes. Il est toujours utile de pr\u00e9ciser dans votre cahier des charges que votre livrable doit \u00eatre un nuage de point \u00ab d\u00e9cim\u00e9 \u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NUAGE G\u00c9OR\u00c9F\u00c9RENC\u00c9<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Il existe plusieurs m\u00e9thodes pour g\u00e9or\u00e9f\u00e9rencer un nuage de points, si vous travaillez sur Revit nous vous recommandons de travailler avec un SCU.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

NUAGE NETTOY\u00c9<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Nettoyer un nuage c\u2019est supprimer les objets sans int\u00e9r\u00eat du relev\u00e9<\/strong> (les passants, le mobilier) ainsi que les artefacts : les r\u00e9flexions des fen\u00eatres ou des surfaces r\u00e9fl\u00e9chissantes. Il s\u2019agit donc d\u2019une intervention humaine qui ne peut pas \u00eatre automatis\u00e9e. Elle se r\u00e9alise dans un outil d\u00e9di\u00e9 au traitement de nuage de points (ReCap, \u2026). Vous pouvez soit exiger un nuage nettoy\u00e9 \u00e0 votre prestataire (qui vous facturera le temps homme n\u00e9cessaire), soit le r\u00e9aliser vous-m\u00eame si vous avez des licences ReCap (comprises dans le Bundle AEC).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NUAGE SEGMENT\u00c9<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Il s\u2019agit du d\u00e9coupage du fichier en plusieurs morceaux.<\/strong> Id\u00e9al pour travailler sur les grands b\u00e2timents, il sera alors possible dans Revit de masquer des morceaux du nuage pour se concentrer sur les zones \u00e0 dessiner et ainsi fluidifier le travail sur Revit. C\u2019est particuli\u00e8rement utile si vous mod\u00e9lisez sur des machines peu performantes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NUAGE ECHANTILLONN\u00c9<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

C\u2019est un traitement qui va d\u00e9finir la densit\u00e9 de points du nuage : concr\u00e8tement il s\u2019agit de d\u00e9finir un nombre de point par millim\u00e8tre. Par exemple un \u00e9chantillonnage \u00e0 2 mm correspond \u00e0 conserver un point tous les 2 mm et supprimer les autres points. Il est important de d\u00e9finir un pas qui soit compatible avec la pr\u00e9cision que l\u2019on recherche. Pour rappel, un scan laser poss\u00e8de une pr\u00e9cision de +\/-2 mm, soit des \u00e9carts pouvant aller jusqu\u2019 \u00e0 4 mm avec l\u2019objet r\u00e9el.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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